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Ranking Prospects Post-Matthews

Significantly Insignificant said:
Which is funny because, that was one of the things that has haunted the Oilers the last couple of years.  However, the Panthers have found a way to overcome it, and the Oilers, well they traded Taylor Hall for Adam Larsson.
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The Panthers were essentially built through 4 drafts. In 2010 and 2011 they had lottery selections that didn't produce elite talent (Gudbranson, Huberdeau) and a boatloat of top-90 selections that produced regular NHLers (Trotchek, Shaw, Bjugstad, Howden, Petrovic). Then 2013 and 2014 was like the opposite, those lottery selections did produce elite talent (Barkov, Ekblad) but possibly nothing after that.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Significantly Insignificant said:
Which is funny because, that was one of the things that has haunted the Oilers the last couple of years.  However, the Panthers have found a way to overcome it, and the Oilers, well they traded Taylor Hall for Adam Larsson.
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The Panthers were essentially built through 4 drafts. In 2010 and 2011 they had lottery selections that didn't produce elite talent (Gudbranson, Huberdeau) and a boatloat of top-90 selections that produced regular NHLers (Trotchek, Shaw, Bjugstad, Howden, Petrovic). Then 2013 and 2014 was like the opposite, those lottery selections did produce elite talent (Barkov, Ekblad) but possibly nothing after that.
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Perhaps the Leafs are following a similar pattern.  C'Mon 1st pairing d-man next year.
 
This is fun: Pronman's top 120 Prospects ranked
https://m.reddit.com/r/leafs/comments/50bly0/pronman_top_120_prospects_ranked/

Guess who is #1!
 
herman said:
This is fun: Pronman's top 120 Prospects ranked
https://m.reddit.com/r/leafs/comments/50bly0/pronman_top_120_prospects_ranked/

Guess who is #1!
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Ha ha. This guy is nothing more than trivia. The comments in the reddit feed were pretty funny, though.
 
herman said:
This is fun: Pronman's top 120 Prospects ranked
https://m.reddit.com/r/leafs/comments/50bly0/pronman_top_120_prospects_ranked/

Guess who is #1!
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I still prefer a C over a W any day.
 
Watching some Zaitsev highlights, it seems his success or sweet spot comes with an inside game, nice, hopefully that helps shorten the learning curve coming over. He looks good.
 
PPP: 8. Martin Marincin
TLN: 3. William Nylander

Well well well, looks like TLN is pretty convinced by Marner's D+1 season (all the awards!), over Nylander's consistent elite production playing in men's leagues.

And good job on PPP for ranking Carrick and Zaitsev over Marincin and Kapanen.
 
Potvin29 said:
herman said:
This is fun: Pronman's top 120 Prospects ranked
https://m.reddit.com/r/leafs/comments/50bly0/pronman_top_120_prospects_ranked/

Guess who is #1!
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Pronman clearly knows nothing.
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I find it bizarre some of the comments trying to justify Strome's higher ranking to Marners when Marner had the best season of any CHLer.
 
Bender said:
Potvin29 said:
herman said:
This is fun: Pronman's top 120 Prospects ranked
https://m.reddit.com/r/leafs/comments/50bly0/pronman_top_120_prospects_ranked/

Guess who is #1!
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Pronman clearly knows nothing.
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I find it bizarre some of the comments trying to justify Strome's higher ranking to Marners when Marner had the best season of any CHLer.
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1.  Strome had a pretty terrific season himself, and he didn't have the linemates Marner had.

2.  Having the best season in the CHL is no guarantee of anything.... see:  Corey Locke

That said, I'd still rather have Marner over Strome.  Though, it helps that we have Matthews as our #1 center of the future.
 
Coco-puffs said:
1.  Strome had a pretty terrific season himself, and he didn't have the linemates Marner had.

2.  Having the best season in the CHL is no guarantee of anything.... see:  Corey Locke

That said, I'd still rather have Marner over Strome.  Though, it helps that we have Matthews as our #1 center of the future.
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Yeah, I don't really have a problem with that ranking. 1.98 vs 2.03 for their PPG's this season. Not a massive difference, although Marner's post-season play was much more impressive. I'm a little more surprised that he has Keller over Nylander, especially since Pronman has always been one of Nylander's biggest fans.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Coco-puffs said:
1.  Strome had a pretty terrific season himself, and he didn't have the linemates Marner had.

2.  Having the best season in the CHL is no guarantee of anything.... see:  Corey Locke

That said, I'd still rather have Marner over Strome.  Though, it helps that we have Matthews as our #1 center of the future.
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Yeah, I don't really have a problem with that ranking. 1.98 vs 2.03 for their PPG's this season. Not a massive difference, although Marner's post-season play was much more impressive. I'm a little more surprised that he has Keller over Nylander, especially since Pronman has always been one of Nylander's biggest fans.
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Though that makes it two straight seasons that Marner has had the higher (albeit very close) PPG.
 
It probably came down to Marner looking more and more like a winger this year, Strome plays the more valuable position and has the size factor.

Marner looks like more of a difference maker to me and his post-season gives him the edge in my eyes.

The Nylander ranking screams a little of attention seeking, especially based on what he has said previously. Again I'll put it down to him being called a winger by Babcock, probably knocked his value down a little in Pronman's eyes.

Matthews/Laine is a strange one because it appears Pronman leans heavily on centre's having more value, desperate for clicks probably.
 
If you're writing behind a paywall you're probably more interested in generating content that makes people want to subscribe and keep subscribing than you are desperate for sensationalism to attract raw viewing totals.

Strome was seen as the more valuable player last year pretty widely and their very similar totals this year probably won't change that much considering the various advantages Marner had in terms of teammates.
 
Pronman explained in more detail why he preferred Laine over Matthews when his draft rankings came out a few months ago, there'd be no reason for that to have changed since then.
 
I have no problem with Pronman's rankings, bizarre as they might seem to Leaf fans in certain respects this time around. It's his system and his observations and his first-hand viewings. I'm just enjoying the fact we have so many prospects on this list at all.
 
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