The Official Complaint Thread!

[Leafaholic99]

NERC!

Currently studying for my NERC RC exam I write Thursday am, can't wait until 1230pm Thursday when I will be done it!

NEEEEEEERC!

Forgot to respond to that, hilarious and its what we kept saying over the two day trip haha

New complaint: I don't mind summer, +20-25 C is perfect, when it gets to the thirties or higher I hate summer and wish for snow! Currently +34 here :/

 

[hockeyfan1]

New complaint: I don't mind summer, +20-25 C is perfect, when it gets to the thirties or higher I hate summer and wish for snow! Currently +34 here :/

I think so, too.  25C  is the ideal summer temperature, perhaps hovering at aroundthe 27C mark.  Anything higher, hot & muggy, I start thinking some cold would be refreshing.  Then in winter, I start longing for summer days, be they hot & humid.  Strange indeed. 

BTW  How did the exam go?  Congrats to you! 

 

[Leafaholic99]

 

[Leafaholic99]

New complaint: I don't mind summer, +20-25 C is perfect, when it gets to the thirties or higher I hate summer and wish for snow! Currently +34 here :/

BTW  How did the exam go?  Congrats to you! 

Passed! All 5 of us did, but we are still waiting for our certificates to arrive in the mail haha

 

[cabber24]

Ontario is funding 300 electric car charging stations? At best these things take 40 minutes to charge a car to 80% and have a range of 300km? So if your on a road trip, you better be able to find one of these stations and if there is someone already there your waiting 80 minutes to charge your car? Does this make any sense at all? I would never venture more then 100km from home in one of these things. This all seems incredibly dumb to me, for this to work there basically needs to be one of these super chargers at every parking spot on the planet. The infrastructure is no where near ready for a large influx of these cars. I need a car that will cover some distance when I need it to and I couldn't imagine waiting 40 minutes to charge my car on a road trip assuming no one is ahead of me in line. Let's just say you pull into a Onroute and the charging station is open, you plug your car in and go for lunch/dinner. Someone pulls up when your inside, your car is fully charged and your still inside eating and someones waiting! I don't know how this is going to work? I think this will be a complete disaster until technology can produce a 5 minute charge and charging stations are readily available. WTF

 

[Kin]

Ontario is funding 300 electric car charging stations? At best these things take 40 minutes to charge a car to 80% and have a range of 300km? So if your on a road trip, you better be able to find one of these stations and if there is someone already there your waiting 80 minutes to charge your car? Does this make any sense at all? I would never venture more then 100km from home in one of these things. This all seems incredibly dumb to me, for this to work there basically needs to be one of these super chargers at every parking spot on the planet. The infrastructure is no where near ready for a large influx of these cars. I need a car that will cover some distance when I need it to and I couldn't imagine waiting 40 minutes to charge my car on a road trip assuming no one is ahead of me in line. Let's just say you pull into a Onroute and the charging station is open, you plug your car in and go for lunch/dinner. Someone pulls up when your inside, your car is fully charged and your still inside eating and someones waiting! I don't know how this is going to work? I think this will be a complete disaster until technology can produce a 5 minute charge and charging stations are readily available. WTF

I would guess that in my life 95-98% of the drives I've taken have been less than 300km. This is about day to day travel and it'll make things easier in the vast majority of cases.

 

[bustaheims]

I would guess that in my life 95-98% of the drives I've taken have been less than 300km. This is about day to day travel and it'll make things easier in the vast majority of cases.

Yup. Really, these electric cars aren't meant for road trips yet. Even if they had super efficient rapid chargers, the batteries don't hold enough power for really extended trips.

 

[Kin]

Yup. Really, these electric cars aren't meant for road trips yet. Even if they had super efficient rapid chargers, the batteries don't hold enough power for really extended trips.

Not in the sense that we've romanticized road trips, no. The idea that you're going to just drive off in your electric car, go where the road takes you and power up when you need to is some ways away but this does make extended travel a little more possible with some good planning and patience.

It's about 250km from Toronto to my Cottage which would make a trip in an electric car dicey. If, however, there's a charging station in Peterborough then I can plan to hit that up both ways even if it adds a couple hours to the trip.

So it's not perfect but it does extend the possibilities for electric cars.

 

[TBLeafer]

Cue the mass production of hydrogen fuel cell refilling stations.

That's really the beginning of the end of gas as the main fuel source.

 

[groundskeeper willie]

Cue the mass production of hydrogen fuel cell refilling stations.

That's really the beginning of the end of gas as the main fuel source.

Don't those require fresh water? That just might be an issue in the future if that's the case.

 

[cabber24]

I would guess that in my life 95-98% of the drives I've taken have been less than 300km. This is about day to day travel and it'll make things easier in the vast majority of cases.

Yup. Really, these electric cars aren't meant for road trips yet. Even if they had super efficient rapid chargers, the batteries don't hold enough power for really extended trips.

I say forget these charging stations and let people who want one stay close to home because building a fraction of the required infrastructure to support a 40 minute charge does not make sense.

 

[herman]

I would guess that in my life 95-98% of the drives I've taken have been less than 300km. This is about day to day travel and it'll make things easier in the vast majority of cases.

Yup. Really, these electric cars aren't meant for road trips yet. Even if they had super efficient rapid chargers, the batteries don't hold enough power for really extended trips.

I say forget these charging stations and let people who want one stay close to home because building a fraction of the required infrastructure to support a 40 minute charge does not make sense.

No one is forcing you to get an EV, or to use a charging station even if you do get one.

 

[TBLeafer]

Cue the mass production of hydrogen fuel cell refilling stations.

That's really the beginning of the end of gas as the main fuel source.

Don't those require fresh water? That just might be an issue in the future if that's the case.

IDK, isn't it also the byproduct?

 

[Kin]

I say forget these charging stations and let people who want one stay close to home because building a fraction of the required infrastructure to support a 40 minute charge does not make sense.

These things aren't really infrastructure heavy. They're basically just fancier versions of the spots gas stations have to inflate your tires.

 

[cabber24]

I would guess that in my life 95-98% of the drives I've taken have been less than 300km. This is about day to day travel and it'll make things easier in the vast majority of cases.

Yup. Really, these electric cars aren't meant for road trips yet. Even if they had super efficient rapid chargers, the batteries don't hold enough power for really extended trips.

I say forget these charging stations and let people who want one stay close to home because building a fraction of the required infrastructure to support a 40 minute charge does not make sense.

No one is forcing you to get an EV, or to use a charging station even if you do get one.

I am being forced to pay for these charging stations!

 

[herman]

Cue the mass production of hydrogen fuel cell refilling stations.

That's really the beginning of the end of gas as the main fuel source.

Don't those require fresh water? That just might be an issue in the future if that's the case.

IDK, isn't it also the byproduct?

Water is the byproduct in a traditional Hydrogen Fuel Cell (combining 2H2 and O2 gas to generate electricity). Hydrogen gas is not readily available without other processes (electrolysis of water, for example, which uses electricity to separate H2 and O), so it's a bit clumsier than batteries in modes of transport.

 

[herman]

No one is forcing you to get an EV, or to use a charging station even if you do get one.

I am being forced to pay for these charging stations!

So you're paying for a better environment for your descendants?

 

[TBLeafer]

I would guess that in my life 95-98% of the drives I've taken have been less than 300km. This is about day to day travel and it'll make things easier in the vast majority of cases.

Yup. Really, these electric cars aren't meant for road trips yet. Even if they had super efficient rapid chargers, the batteries don't hold enough power for really extended trips.

I say forget these charging stations and let people who want one stay close to home because building a fraction of the required infrastructure to support a 40 minute charge does not make sense.

No one is forcing you to get an EV, or to use a charging station even if you do get one.

I am being forced to pay for these charging stations!

Well you can be happy that jobs are being created and the economy stimulated.

 

[Kin]

Just for some perspective, the 500 charging stations will cost about 20 million or 40,000 per or 1.47 per Ontarian.

Even if this reduces carbon emissions a little or promotes electric car manufacturing, I think that's a pretty reasonable investment.

 

[TBLeafer]

Cue the mass production of hydrogen fuel cell refilling stations.

That's really the beginning of the end of gas as the main fuel source.

Don't those require fresh water? That just might be an issue in the future if that's the case.

IDK, isn't it also the byproduct?

Water is the byproduct in a traditional Hydrogen Fuel Cell (combining 2H2 and O2 gas to generate electricity). Hydrogen gas is not readily available without other processes (electrolysis of water, for example, which uses electricity to separate H2 and O), so it's a bit clumsier than batteries in modes of transport.

Well yes and the hardest hurdle was safely containing something so highly combustible in the course of an accident, say.

With that safety essential taken care of, if they wanted to, couldn't they essentially refine at any location where you refuel?