Trade deadline moves

[Bates]

Who is going to offer sheet him for 4M+ AAV?

People think these things happen in a vacuum, but every contract signing has implications for every team.  The reason I brought up teams and their own cap situation and their own RFAs is this.  Let's say "Team X" does just that, offers Kapanen some overpayment of $4M+ on a decent long term.  Then, let's say they have their own free agent winger who was just putting up 10-11 points in his first few seasons but then has a ONE breakout year, you think he's going to want to take less than what Kapanen took?  "Hey you went out and gave this guy big money, oh by the way the cap is higher now too so where's my $5M+ deal?"  You're not just screwing the Leafs by offering sheeting a player you're screwing yourself too.  That's why teams don't do it.

Kinda like how the Nylander contract is going to hurt the Leaf's come July??

 

[herman]

lol

 

[bustaheims]

 

[Zee]

I give up.

 

[herman]

That argument isn't even beating a dead horse -- it's not even a horse.

All of Nylander's shot metrics have improved over his previous 60pt seasons, inclusive of his 10-12 game ramp up. Except for the puck actually going into the net because hey, we're also in the middle of Kadri and Matthews' scoring slumps, and Andersen being injured.

Nylander's contract is both fair market value and going to be a steal. Like Kadri's became a steal the year after he signed and magically stopped shooting 3% because the shooting bad luck wasn't his true capability. If anything, Nylander taking only 6.9M is going to help us retain more depth in the long run.

 

[cujo4ever]

So based on the results last night against Tampa, I think we can conclusively conclude that there's no need for any trade deadline moves whatsoever.

 

[Zee]

That argument isn't even beating a dead horse -- it's not even a horse.

All of Nylander's shot metrics have improved over his previous 60pt seasons, inclusive of his 10-12 game ramp up. Except for the puck actually going into the net because hey, we're also in the middle of Kadri and Matthews' scoring slumps, and Andersen being injured.

Nylander's contract is both fair market value and going to be a steal. Like Kadri's became a steal the year after he signed and magically stopped shooting 3% because the shooting bad luck wasn't his true capability. If anything, Nylander taking only 6.9M is going to help us retain more depth in the long run.

Nylander will have a shooting percentage correction soon to get closer to his career average 10.5% shooting.  I can't wait for that...

 

[Guilt Trip]

That argument isn't even beating a dead horse -- it's not even a horse.

All of Nylander's shot metrics have improved over his previous 60pt seasons, inclusive of his 10-12 game ramp up. Except for the puck actually going into the net because hey, we're also in the middle of Kadri and Matthews' scoring slumps, and Andersen being injured.

Nylander's contract is both fair market value and going to be a steal. Like Kadri's became a steal the year after he signed and magically stopped shooting 3% because the shooting bad luck wasn't his true capability. If anything, Nylander taking only 6.9M is going to help us retain more depth in the long run.

Nylander will have a shooting percentage correction soon to get closer to his career average 10.5% shooting.  I can't wait for that...

Matthews can't wait to lol.

 

[Zee]

So based on the results last night against Tampa, I think we can conclusively conclude that there's no need for any trade deadline moves whatsoever.

Heh, I wouldn't be surprised if there's no "major" trade made though, i.e. bringing in some big name defenceman like we've heard thrown around Pietrangelo, Parakyo or Hamilton.  Could be some value deals made for some more seasoned NHL dman to be a slight upgrade on the backend.  I guess it all depends on how much the Leafs are willing to go "all in" on trades.

 

[cabber24]

That argument isn't even beating a dead horse -- it's not even a horse.

All of Nylander's shot metrics have improved over his previous 60pt seasons, inclusive of his 10-12 game ramp up. Except for the puck actually going into the net because hey, we're also in the middle of Kadri and Matthews' scoring slumps, and Andersen being injured.

Nylander's contract is both fair market value and going to be a steal. Like Kadri's became a steal the year after he signed and magically stopped shooting 3% because the shooting bad luck wasn't his true capability. If anything, Nylander taking only 6.9M is going to help us retain more depth in the long run.

Again this year with an awful shooting percentage for Kadri compared to his career average. Crazy how prolonged some of his slumps seem to be. Hopefully, things start leveling out for him.

 

[Guilt Trip]

So based on the results last night against Tampa, I think we can conclusively conclude that there's no need for any trade deadline moves whatsoever.

Heh, I wouldn't be surprised if there's no "major" trade made though, i.e. bringing in some big name defenceman like we've heard thrown around Pietrangelo, Parakyo or Hamilton.  Could be some value deals made for some more seasoned NHL dman to be a slight upgrade on the backend.  I guess it all depends on how much the Leafs are willing to go "all in" on trades.

Leafs aren't going all in yet. I think they'll look for a younger Hainsey type of D man. Hainsey was important for the Pens when they won a few years back. I believe they also grabbed Daly and Schultz in those 2 years also. No big splash, just guys that can do the job.

 

[cabber24]

So based on the results last night against Tampa, I think we can conclusively conclude that there's no need for any trade deadline moves whatsoever.

Heh, I wouldn't be surprised if there's no "major" trade made though, i.e. bringing in some big name defenceman like we've heard thrown around Pietrangelo, Parakyo or Hamilton.  Could be some value deals made for some more seasoned NHL dman to be a slight upgrade on the backend.  I guess it all depends on how much the Leafs are willing to go "all in" on trades.

Who knows maybe we do get a guy with term with the plan to flip salary in the summer.

 

[Guilt Trip]

Again this year with an awful shooting percentage for Kadri compared to his career average. Crazy how prolonged some of his slumps seem to be. Hopefully, things start leveling out for him.

I heard somewhere, maybe Leafs Lunch that if he had his career shooting percentage, he'd be on pace for 30 again. I wasn't worried so much about the goals, I wasn't seeing Kadri being that PITA out there. He needs to play that way and he's a very effective player when he does play like that.

 

[Guilt Trip]

So based on the results last night against Tampa, I think we can conclusively conclude that there's no need for any trade deadline moves whatsoever.

Heh, I wouldn't be surprised if there's no "major" trade made though, i.e. bringing in some big name defenceman like we've heard thrown around Pietrangelo, Parakyo or Hamilton.  Could be some value deals made for some more seasoned NHL dman to be a slight upgrade on the backend.  I guess it all depends on how much the Leafs are willing to go "all in" on trades.

Who knows maybe we do get a guy with term with the plan to flip salary in the summer.

Parayko is at 5.5 for 3 more. Great term for what he is. I still think it depends on what the cost is because i don't see the Leafs overpaying for anything. They're staying the course.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Parayko is at 5.5 for 3 more. Great term for what he is. I still think it depends on what the cost is because i don't see the Leafs overpaying for anything. They're staying the course.

If Parayko is available and the Leafs don't overpay then St. Louis will just find a team that will.

 

[Guilt Trip]

Parayko is at 5.5 for 3 more. Great term for what he is. I still think it depends on what the cost is because i don't see the Leafs overpaying for anything. They're staying the course.

If Parayko is available and the Leafs don't overpay then St. Louis will just find a team that will.

True enough but you never know what St Louis wants in return and what teams are offering and even what division they play in. Hey it's a pipe dream to get a guy like him but I'm not holding my breath. I think a steady non star guy is what the Leafs will target.

 

[cabber24]

How about old guys not currently playing in the NHL: Bieksa, Markov, Kevin Klein?

 

[Andy007]

I'm still hoping for Justin Faulk. I think he's the perfect target for the combination of what it would take to get him (less than Pietrangelo and Parayko) and the value he'd add to the right side as compared to a "younger, Hainsey type."

 

[Guilt Trip]

I'm still hoping for Justin Faulk. I think he's the perfect target for the combination of what it would take to get him (less than Pietrangelo and Parayko) and the value he'd add to the right side as compared to a "younger, Hainsey type."

Again it's always the cost involved..should be interesting around deadline time.

 

[Redleaf]

Please stop bringing up Kapanen's name in trade rumors, thanks.

Please stop expecting the defence to be upgraded in any way then, thanks.

I can?t speak for Zee, but I?d trade Nylander over Kapanen. You?ll likely get more back for him and I really like what I saw last year from Kap at playoff time, better defensively, less cap room etc etc