2022-23 Toronto Maple Leafs General Discussion

[Zee]

Husso obviously had a good season (.919 SV% in 40 games) but the previous year had an .893 SV% in 17 games and a .890 SV% in 7 playoff games this year.  I'd be fine if Husso was a tandem but I'm really not comfortable with Husso + Woll/Kallgren

Husso is another roll of the dice in an unproven guy, so they may as well stick with Campbell in my opinion if nothing better presents itself. 

 

[CarltonTheBear]

I feel like Edmonton's going to go hard on Kuemper. That'll just leave New Jersey and the Leafs going for Campbell. I think he's coming back.

 

[Guilt Trip]

Perhaps the Leafs will get their guy via the trade route. Stolarz, Hill, Kahkonen, Gibson(retained) are a few targets for me. I'm hoping they don't pay Jack 5M. I don't think he's worth it.

 

[Guilt Trip]

I feel like Edmonton's going to go hard on Kuemper. That'll just leave New Jersey and the Leafs going for Campbell. I think he's coming back.

I think you're right on Edm. They have about 10M in space like the Leafs but only have 7 forwards signed. Keith and his decision are looming large or they'll have to shed some salary, like the Leafs may have to.

 

[rdowdall]

What about Price with 50% retained?

 

[Arn]

I basically see the potential options I'd have interest in sorted into these 2 groups...

1A: Campbell, Varlamov, Fleury, Gibson, Kuemper

1B: Mrazek, Reimer/Hill, Stolarz, Comrie, Blackwood, Georgiev, Murray (if bought out), Brossoit

Any one of the 1A's paired with one of the 1B's would be fine by me. All comes down to what makes the most sense cap/acquisition cost/value wise.

Updated list. Mrazek being moved out makes acquiring one of the 1A's a little easier. Although with Fleury off the table, Varlamov reportedly not being available, and Gibson probably not being as cheaply available as I would like that really only leaves Campbell and Kuemper.

I could add Husso to this list as well of course but I feel like he's a 1B that'll be paid more like a 1A so he'd more of a Plan C if Campbell and Kuemper sign elsewhere.

Husso gone anyway.

To Detroit for a 73rd pick.

 

[Frank E]

I don't know about you guys, but I'm getting sick and tired of having to talk about our shaky goaltending every summer.

 

[Guilt Trip]

What about Price with 50% retained?

If healthy, without a doubt but depends on the cost to obtain. Right now though, def no. Price said himself last year that he didn't think he could play a full year. "My honest opinion is no. I don't believe that in the current state it would be sustainable for a whole season,'' Price said. "So in that regard, I have a lot of question marks and fortunately for me, I got a lot of time over the summer to prepare.''
Habs..."At the end of the day, what we're hoping to get is clarity,'' Hughes said. "Is this an injury that Carey is going to be able to recover from and return to true form or not?''

"Whether this is an injury that prevents him from ever being able to play again, I don't think we have that answer and to tell you that that answer comes from a medical procedure or an imaging or any of that, I think we're not at that point right now.''

 

[L K]

Teams without a guaranteed starting goalie:

Toronto, Edmonton - teams trying to contend
Buffalo, Philly- teams that are maybe starting to want to compete/don't know what they are doing

 

[Guilt Trip]

Teams without a guaranteed starting goalie:

Toronto, Edmonton - teams trying to contend
Buffalo, Philly- teams that are maybe starting to want to compete/don't know what they are doing

Carter Hart is a legit starter.

 

[L K]

Teams without a guaranteed starting goalie:

Toronto, Edmonton - teams trying to contend
Buffalo, Philly- teams that are maybe starting to want to compete/don't know what they are doing

Carter Hart is a legit starter.

Yeah but Cliff Fletcher is a moron.  I don't trust them to not try and do more stupid things.

 

[princedpw]

Starting Goalie: Mrazek
Top-6 Winger acquisition: Robertson
1st round pick: trade down, get Rutger McGroarty and Owen Beck
UFA bargain bin: Giordano counts, and probably Blackwell again
Marlie that makes the roster: Robertson and Holmberg

Glad #1 was a nope.  I hope you were intentionally reverse jinxing it

 

[Zee]

Leafs play the Hawks in Feb.  Should I pencil in the Mrazek shutout now?

 

[CarltonTheBear]

5pm today is the deadline for when qualifying offers can be handed out, so we'll be hearing some news about that by then. There are Toronto's RFAs currently:

Engvall
Kase
Sandin

Duszak
Krys
Rubins
Scott

Sandin will of course get one and Dubas has already announced Engvall will too. Kase is the question mark since he has arbitration rights and could potentially be rewarded a deal higher than the Leafs are comfortable with. Reminder that even if he isn't qualified it's entirely possible he still re-signs with the Leafs at some point.

Looking at the minor league guys, Rubins is basically a lock. Duszak seemed a little disgruntled with his lack of call-ups and reportedly asked to be moved. Krys was acquired from Chicago last season and didn't seem to make much of an impact with the Marlies. Entirely possible both those guys are cut loose. Ian Scott unfortunately simply can't stay healthy and if he returns to the Leafs organization at all this summer it should be on an AHL contract at most. Although with 3 goalies already signed to AHL deals I really just don't see any room for him here anymore.

 

[herman]

I think Ian Scott should take an AHL deal and leverage the MLSE resources to rebuild his body and game. There isn't really another franchise that would do that for him.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

I think Ian Scott should take an AHL deal and leverage the MLSE resources to rebuild his body and game. There isn't really another franchise that would do that for him.

From his perspective, yeah. I still do wonder if it's worth it for the Leafs organization though, or if they should be focusing more on Petruzzelli/McKay/Cavallin.

 

[herman]

I think Ian Scott should take an AHL deal and leverage the MLSE resources to rebuild his body and game. There isn't really another franchise that would do that for him.

From his perspective, yeah. I still do wonder if it's worth it for the Leafs organization though, or if they should be focusing more on Petruzzelli/McKay/Cavallin.

I think they have enough resources and bandwidth to accommodate a player they drafted who's had some really bad luck. It's a pretty much a free flyer at this point and we get to build up significant loyalty in a promising prospect (if ever healthy), as well as some reputation points around the goaltending guild (unless Andersen, Campbell, Mrazek has tanked it).

 

[ZBBM]

Murray or Kuemper?

If this is what it comes down to (assuming Jack's out of the mix), I lean Murray because of his lower age plus costing less.  Both have won Cups.  In saying this I presume that the Leafs know, through official channels or otherwise, what the particulars of Murray's injury problems are.

But it's a close call.  As would bringing Campbell back, although I don't like his numbers you guys were quoting about high-danger save %.  With the Leafs D, there is always plenty of high-danger chances given to the opponent, it seems.

 

[rdowdall]

Murray or Kuemper?

If this is what it comes down to (assuming Jack's out of the mix), I lean Murray because of his lower age plus costing less.  Both have won Cups.  In saying this I presume that the Leafs know, through official channels or otherwise, what the particulars of Murray's injury problems are.

But it's a close call.  As would bringing Campbell back, although I don't like his numbers you guys were quoting about high-danger save %.  With the Leafs D, there is always plenty of high-danger chances given to the opponent, it seems.

I think that is true of any team though.  NHL teams are going to get chances, and I think the Leafs defence is actually pretty good at limiting them on most nights.  Sure there are nights they look terrible, but every team has those.  Even against Tampa, they did okay with Campbell in net.  The Leafs could have won that series.

Just as an aside.  I wonder how much size plays into high danger save percentage?  Jack is 6'2" and Murray is 6'4".  If you are bigger, even if it is just a couple of inches, I wonder if it gives you a little edge in letting the puck hit you on those in-tight chances. 

 

[Arn]

Of the 3 I probably lean to whichever allows the best backup or 1B. So if the finance of the Murray deal allows a trade to have, say, Reimer as the second goalie I go for it.