WhatIfGodWasALeaf
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Haha that was my only pet peeve too, still, like you the FNL homage and general imagery of our current core was great.
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Jalili
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Mack674 said:
What are they apologizing for?
Rebel_1812
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Snoop Lion said:
Yeah us fans didn't do anything. The people that fired burke likely would not hire him back either. It wasn't about the team he put together but rather his personality; which was the reason he was canned.
Mack674
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Rebel_1812 said:
lol not aimed at anyone in particular but plenty of people around here were calling for his head and rejoiced when he was fired. I liked him, for the record. Hell I like anybody that isn't afraid to tell it like it is and doesn't play politician all the time.
Personality be damned, this is a results driven industry. Here are the Leafs poised for their best finish in 7 seasons and the guy that put the team together doesn't even work here lol. Oh Toronto.
leafplasma
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Mack674 said:
Hey now, Burke had no part in bringing in McLaren.
Kin
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Mack674 said:
Maybe it's a by-product of being old enough to remember when it happened with some degree of regularity but I'm not inclined to lose my mind with gratitude at the prospect of the Leafs being poised to be one of the 16 of 30 NHL teams who will make the NHL playoffs. That the Leafs "best result in 7 years" is that as of now they look to be in that top 53% of all NHL teams is less an accomplishment that needs acknowledgement and more a testament to the failures of JFJ, Fletcher and, yes, Brian Burke over those seven years.
You say it's a results driven industry and, quite frankly, the results Burke got were justification enough for his firing, personality concerns aside.
Mack674
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When you consider the state this team was in when Burke took over, Im impressed at where it sits now. I don't envy any other GM in the league having to do the same. I at least saw consistent improvement year to year while he was here. It didn't always translate to consistent improvements in the win column but you could tell it was coming around.
I think the loyalty to Wilson is what got him fired. Had he canned Ron much earlier in the year or even before and had Carlyle come in....
anyway what's done is done. I just think it's funny how little mention he gets these days now that the team is sitting in the playoffs finally and could actually push for home ice advantage and while he was still here during worse times there was no shortage of people to point the finger.
I think the loyalty to Wilson is what got him fired. Had he canned Ron much earlier in the year or even before and had Carlyle come in....
anyway what's done is done. I just think it's funny how little mention he gets these days now that the team is sitting in the playoffs finally and could actually push for home ice advantage and while he was still here during worse times there was no shortage of people to point the finger.
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Deebo said:
I think that's a subject that's been discussed at length elsewhere and clearly opinions run the gamut on the topic. As to the "top 53%" that was more in reference to the idea that the Leafs look poised to have their best finish in 7 years, the dividing line there being the playoffs.
Nik said:
Your post said you are "not inclined to lose (your) mind with gratitude at the prospect of the Leafs being poised to be one of the 16 of 30 NHL teams teams who will make the NHL playoffs"
How about top 8 (where they are now)? Is that good enough? What is good enough with the group that Burke assembled for you to say he did a good job?
Or is just that his 3 full seasons here were non-playoff years and that's enough to say he did a bad job?
I'm trying to understand the basis of your evaluation of the job he did.
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Deebo said:
Not to get bogged down in minutiae or anything but the Leafs right now fall just outside of the top 8, being tied for 9th with Vancouver in terms of points winning percentage.
Anyways, I think for starters I'd say that any sort of back slapping is going to be first and foremost be based on something definite. A week or so ago the Leafs were very much just barely in the playoffs and now are a notch above that based on two good weeks. Two bad weeks and they could be there again so right now any sort of congratulations are premature.
As to the larger point, I don't think that what happens this year is going to be a definitive statement either way. The evaluation of the job that Burke did is really going to be how they're poised for the future.
On a side note though, I don't think that we should be so quick to dismiss this as Nonis' team regardless of what players he did or didn't add(and, again, he definitely had a hand in bringing guys to this team even before Burke was fired). Lots of new managers can get drastically improved results without making big changes to personnel. That the Leafs are doing a lot better this year with many of the players who did poorly last year doesn't mean Nonis doesn't deserve a legitimate share of the credit for their success.
hockeyfan1
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Here is a preview on the remaining games/teams Leafs will play:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1589454-toronto-maple-leafs-previewing-the-rest-of-the-season
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1589454-toronto-maple-leafs-previewing-the-rest-of-the-season
hockeyfan1
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Could a Keith Yandle help the Leafs? Think it's worth for Nonis to get him?
According to Bruce Garrioch of the Ottawa Sun, Yandle is available: The only impact blueliner available is Keith Yandleof the Phoenix Coyotes, who wouldn't mind shedding his $5.25 million salary.
...Yandle is a defenseman who can play in all three zones and will give you well over 20 minutes of ice time per game.While Yandle would certainly be the most expensive of these three options, he'd be more than worth the cost and could really help the Leafs in their own end, as well as on the powerplay and in the offensive zone.
Souroe: bIeacherreport
According to Bruce Garrioch of the Ottawa Sun, Yandle is available: The only impact blueliner available is Keith Yandleof the Phoenix Coyotes, who wouldn't mind shedding his $5.25 million salary.
...Yandle is a defenseman who can play in all three zones and will give you well over 20 minutes of ice time per game.While Yandle would certainly be the most expensive of these three options, he'd be more than worth the cost and could really help the Leafs in their own end, as well as on the powerplay and in the offensive zone.
Souroe: bIeacherreport
bustaheims
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mirtle: Hearing Leafs have sent Ryan Hamilton down. Komarov and MacArthur expected back tomorrow.
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