Training Camp Thread

[Zee]

Which is totally ridiculous, I'd rather a young guy gets more of a look than two slugs like that.  The organization talks a big game about young guys getting long looks, and yet they keep around the bash brothers.

I get what you're saying, but I'd save my outrage for if they survive the final cut, which I'm starting to suspect that Orr might.

That would blow my mind.

 

[Highlander]

Oh no not again!!

 

[Kin]

That would blow my mind.

Were you under the impression that Carlyle got fired this off-season?

 

[Zee]

That would blow my mind.

Were you under the impression that Carlyle got fired this off-season?

That's a good point, I was hoping that he was at least neutered by Shanahan.

 

[L K]

Tyler Biggs stays up over McKegg and Brown, hah.

To be fair, he's been pretty consistent since being drafted.  Not the good kind of consistent, but at least its something.

 

[Kin]

That's a good point, I was hoping that he was at least neutered by Shanahan.

If the organization thought about him what the blogosphere thought of him, he'd have been fired. No two ways. Shanahan is who made the decision to keep him and if he were the big tough guy everyone seems to be thinking he is, he probably wouldn't want a neutered coach hanging around.

 

[Kessel Run]

Oh good, Orr and McLaren survived the cuts.

Oh joy.

 

[Arn]

So Bibeau has stayed up, implying he'll back up Sparks in the AHL? Or would he be better off going to Orlando and starting in the ECHL with Heeter backing up Sparks in the AHL?

 

[CarltonTheBear]

So Bibeau has stayed up, implying he'll back up Sparks in the AHL? Or would he be better off going to Orlando and starting in the ECHL with Heeter backing up Sparks in the AHL?

Heeter isn't signed to a contract, and I'm not really sure he will be. At least not a NHL one. I would assume the plan would be for Sparks to start in the AHL with Bibeau and Gibson rotating between starting in the ECHL and backing-up in the AHL.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

Oh good, Orr and McLaren survived the cuts.

Oh joy.

It's funny because I really don't think they outperformed a single player.

 

[Joe S.]

I thought Mclaren was waived last season - I really thought he was out of the organization. I had no idea he was still here.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

If they insist on keeping an 'enforcer' type, I hope it's Broll (it won't be).

 

[CarltonTheBear]

If they insist on keeping an 'enforcer' type, I hope it's Broll (it won't be).

Well, he was already cut so yeah probably not happening for him this season. Bodie still has a chance though.

Even if Orr does get a spot on the roster, I can't see him actually playing very many games.

 

[L K]

So Bibeau has stayed up, implying he'll back up Sparks in the AHL? Or would he be better off going to Orlando and starting in the ECHL with Heeter backing up Sparks in the AHL?

Heeter isn't signed to a contract, and I'm not really sure he will be. At least not a NHL one. I would assume the plan would be for Sparks to start in the AHL with Bibeau and Gibson rotating between starting in the ECHL and backing-up in the AHL.

I liked what I saw out of Heeter though in the two games.  I hope they give him a fair look even if it only amounts to an ECHL 1B type position.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

I liked what I saw out of Heeter though in the two games.  I hope they give him a fair look even if it only amounts to an ECHL 1B type position.

He's turning 26 in November with just 76 (unimpressive) AHL games under his belt. He was probably just brought in to give the camp an even number of goalies. The team already has 3 minor league goalies under contract and I'm sure Orlando has one of their own.

 

[Britishbulldog]

Players left:

FORWARDS SPENCER ABBOTT CARTER ASHTON TYLER BIGGS TROY BODIE DAVID BOOTH TYLER BOZAK SAM CARRICK DAVID CLARKSON MATT FRATTIN  ** Press Box FREDERIK GAUTHIER PETER HOLLAND NAZEM KADRI PHIL KESSEL LEO KOMAROV PETRI KONTIOLA ** Press Box BRANDON KOZUN JOSH LEIVO JOFFREY LUPUL FRAZER MCLAREN WILLIAM NYLANDER COLTON ORR MIKE SANTORELLI TREVOR SMITH JAMES VAN RIEMSDYK DANIEL WINNIK

DEFENCEMEN CODY FRANSON JAKE GARDINER PETTER GRANBERG KORBINIAN HOLZER VIKTOR LOOV KEVIN MARSHALL STUART PERCY DION PHANEUF ROMAN POLAK MORGAN RIELLY STEPHANE ROBIDAS HENRIK TALLINDER ** Press Box

GOALIES JONATHAN BERNIER ANTOINE BIBEAU JAMES REIMER GARRET SPARKS

edit: The list on the Leafs site doesn't have Orr or Booth, but I'm guessing that's just a mistake. They've left guys off the original list as well at first.

That is how I expect Carlyle to deal with the team:

JVR / Bozak / Kessel
Lupul / Kadri / Booth
Komarov / Holland / Clarkson
Winnik / Santorelli / Orr
Kontiola / Frattin

Phaneuf / Polak
Gardiner / Robidas
Rielly / Franson
Tallinder

Bernier
Reimer

 

[LuncheonMeat]

I liked what I saw out of Heeter though in the two games.  I hope they give him a fair look even if it only amounts to an ECHL 1B type position.

He's turning 26 in November with just 76 (unimpressive) AHL games under his belt. He was probably just brought in to give the camp an even number of goalies. The team already has 3 minor league goalies under contract and I'm sure Orlando has one of their own.

I think Bibeau has earned a couple more games based on recent history.  I don't know that I can say the same of the other guys, but I haven't seen enough of the other guys to know for sure.

I'm starting to have this bad feeling that Orr is in the lineup opening night.  That could mean Carlyle either rolling 3 lines again, or giving Orr 10 minutes/night.  If the latter happens, the collective heads of all the pro-analytics people will explode simultaneously, throwing the Earth of its axis.

 

[LuncheonMeat]

Players left:

FORWARDS SPENCER ABBOTT CARTER ASHTON TYLER BIGGS TROY BODIE DAVID BOOTH TYLER BOZAK SAM CARRICK DAVID CLARKSON MATT FRATTIN  ** Press Box FREDERIK GAUTHIER PETER HOLLAND NAZEM KADRI PHIL KESSEL LEO KOMAROV PETRI KONTIOLA ** Press Box BRANDON KOZUN JOSH LEIVO JOFFREY LUPUL FRAZER MCLAREN WILLIAM NYLANDER COLTON ORR MIKE SANTORELLI TREVOR SMITH JAMES VAN RIEMSDYK DANIEL WINNIK

DEFENCEMEN CODY FRANSON JAKE GARDINER PETTER GRANBERG KORBINIAN HOLZER VIKTOR LOOV KEVIN MARSHALL STUART PERCY DION PHANEUF ROMAN POLAK MORGAN RIELLY STEPHANE ROBIDAS HENRIK TALLINDER ** Press Box

GOALIES JONATHAN BERNIER ANTOINE BIBEAU JAMES REIMER GARRET SPARKS

edit: The list on the Leafs site doesn't have Orr or Booth, but I'm guessing that's just a mistake. They've left guys off the original list as well at first.

That is how I expect Carlyle to deal with the team:

JVR / Bozak / Kessel
Lupul / Kadri / Booth
Komarov / Holland / Clarkson
Winnik / Santorelli / Orr
Kontiola / Frattin

Phaneuf / Polak
Gardiner / Robidas
Rielly / Franson
Tallinder

Bernier
Reimer

Orr starting with Frattin in the press box would throw me into a rage... but wouldn't surprise me at all. 

 

[freer]

Players left:

FORWARDS SPENCER ABBOTT CARTER ASHTON TYLER BIGGS TROY BODIE DAVID BOOTH TYLER BOZAK SAM CARRICK DAVID CLARKSON MATT FRATTIN  ** Press Box FREDERIK GAUTHIER PETER HOLLAND NAZEM KADRI PHIL KESSEL LEO KOMAROV PETRI KONTIOLA ** Press Box BRANDON KOZUN JOSH LEIVO JOFFREY LUPUL FRAZER MCLAREN WILLIAM NYLANDER COLTON ORR MIKE SANTORELLI TREVOR SMITH JAMES VAN RIEMSDYK DANIEL WINNIK

DEFENCEMEN CODY FRANSON JAKE GARDINER PETTER GRANBERG KORBINIAN HOLZER VIKTOR LOOV KEVIN MARSHALL STUART PERCY DION PHANEUF ROMAN POLAK MORGAN RIELLY STEPHANE ROBIDAS HENRIK TALLINDER ** Press Box

GOALIES JONATHAN BERNIER ANTOINE BIBEAU JAMES REIMER GARRET SPARKS

edit: The list on the Leafs site doesn't have Orr or Booth, but I'm guessing that's just a mistake. They've left guys off the original list as well at first.

That is how I expect Carlyle to deal with the team:

JVR / Bozak / Kessel
Lupul / Kadri / Booth
Komarov / Holland / Clarkson
Winnik / Santorelli / Orr
Kontiola / Frattin

Phaneuf / Polak
Gardiner / Robidas
Rielly / Franson
Tallinder

Bernier
Reimer

Orr starting with Frattin in the press box would throw me into a rage... but wouldn't surprise me at all. 

Unfortunately from the games I have seen, Orr has played just as well as Frattin, Both of them having one shot on net

 

[LuncheonMeat]

Players left:

FORWARDS SPENCER ABBOTT CARTER ASHTON TYLER BIGGS TROY BODIE DAVID BOOTH TYLER BOZAK SAM CARRICK DAVID CLARKSON MATT FRATTIN  ** Press Box FREDERIK GAUTHIER PETER HOLLAND NAZEM KADRI PHIL KESSEL LEO KOMAROV PETRI KONTIOLA ** Press Box BRANDON KOZUN JOSH LEIVO JOFFREY LUPUL FRAZER MCLAREN WILLIAM NYLANDER COLTON ORR MIKE SANTORELLI TREVOR SMITH JAMES VAN RIEMSDYK DANIEL WINNIK

DEFENCEMEN CODY FRANSON JAKE GARDINER PETTER GRANBERG KORBINIAN HOLZER VIKTOR LOOV KEVIN MARSHALL STUART PERCY DION PHANEUF ROMAN POLAK MORGAN RIELLY STEPHANE ROBIDAS HENRIK TALLINDER ** Press Box

GOALIES JONATHAN BERNIER ANTOINE BIBEAU JAMES REIMER GARRET SPARKS

edit: The list on the Leafs site doesn't have Orr or Booth, but I'm guessing that's just a mistake. They've left guys off the original list as well at first.

That is how I expect Carlyle to deal with the team:

JVR / Bozak / Kessel
Lupul / Kadri / Booth
Komarov / Holland / Clarkson
Winnik / Santorelli / Orr
Kontiola / Frattin

Phaneuf / Polak
Gardiner / Robidas
Rielly / Franson
Tallinder

Bernier
Reimer

Orr starting with Frattin in the press box would throw me into a rage... but wouldn't surprise me at all. 

Unfortunately from the games I have seen, Orr has played just as well as Frattin, Both of them having one shot on net

That being the case, they should give the ice time to the guy with more upside that they traded Jerry D'Amigo for.  Orr has no upside that I can see.