General Leafs Talk

[BlueWhiteBlood]

Nice to see our own Rob Del Mundo quoted in the Sun yesterday...

 

[CarltonTheBear]

I see now (FWIW) Fraser wore #2 with the Devils.

He also wore it with the Marlies.

 

[Corn Flake]

Sure, whatever, it's just money.

How many years are left on his contract though? Just the one? Ideally I think it would be smart to see how things go in this season, as it's the first full one with him as GM and he's finally put his stamp on the team. But if it's just one year left then I understand. It's common practice to not let a GM or coach go into a season with just a year left.

I think he got a 3-year deal but maybe it was one of those el-cheapo ones where he's kind of underpaid for the job he's doing. 

 

[bustaheims]

Sure, whatever, it's just money.

How many years are left on his contract though? Just the one? Ideally I think it would be smart to see how things go in this season, as it's the first full one with him as GM and he's finally put his stamp on the team. But if it's just one year left then I understand. It's common practice to not let a GM or coach go into a season with just a year left.

I think he has 2 years left on his current deal, but, as Corn points out, it was one that was negotiated for a different position than he currently holds - which would be why his contract is being renegotiated, rather than simply extended.

 

[lamajama]

Nonis might be getting a new contract soon?

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-07-15/former-anschutz-boss-charts-leafs-victory-parade-route.html

Leiweke said he is gathering the building blocks to an eventual Stanley Cup-winning Leafs squad. A key component will be general manager Dave Nonis, whose contract is being renegotiated, he said.

?We?ll probably have some news on that very soon,? Leiweke said. ?I?m a big Dave Nonis fan, and I want a culture here that is different than the one I stepped into.?

BCE Inc. (BCE) and Rogers Communications Inc. (RCI/B), Canada?s two largest telecommunications companies, acquired control of Maple Leaf Sports in 2012 to add hundreds of hours of programming they can sell to sports fans on their smartphones and tablets. The two companies together generated profit of C$4.32 billion ($4.14 billion) last year.

Having to answer to the chiefs of two publicly traded companies is a change from Anschutz but one Leiweke says he?s happy with.

?Our owners know we?ve got to be patient and stop knee-jerking like we have in the past,? he said.

"I want a culture different than the one I stepped into" ??

What does he mean by that? Is this a shot at BB?

I think it might be a shot at Rogers and Bell about the dismissal of Burke.

Interesting if so because Rogers and Bell are his bosses. Anyway it just seems like he's drew another large target on MLSE.  :

 

[Corn Flake]

I think it might be a shot at Rogers and Bell about the dismissal of Burke.

Interesting if so because Rogers and Bell are his bosses. Anyway it just seems like he's drew another large target on MLSE.  :

which is why it probably isn't a shot at his bosses.

 

[Corn Flake]

Sure, whatever, it's just money.

How many years are left on his contract though? Just the one? Ideally I think it would be smart to see how things go in this season, as it's the first full one with him as GM and he's finally put his stamp on the team. But if it's just one year left then I understand. It's common practice to not let a GM or coach go into a season with just a year left.

I think he has 2 years left on his current deal, but, as Corn points out, it was one that was negotiated for a different position than he currently holds - which would be why his contract is being renegotiated, rather than simply extended.

Did they not just Ujiri piles of high end money to be the GM of the Raps?  Like $2+ mil a year? My guess would be they would want to align pay structures to some degree. 

 

[bustaheims]

I think it might be a shot at Rogers and Bell about the dismissal of Burke.

Interesting if so because Rogers and Bell are his bosses. Anyway it just seems like he's drew another large target on MLSE.  :

which is why it probably isn't a shot at his bosses.

It probably wasn't really a shot at anyone, though it may have come across that way. When a sports franchise hires a new president, they almost always talk about changing the culture. It's really just a meaningless, empty statement.

But, if it's a shot at anyone, it's likely at Peddie and whoever was in charge in the interim.

 

[Corn Flake]

I think it might be a shot at Rogers and Bell about the dismissal of Burke.

Interesting if so because Rogers and Bell are his bosses. Anyway it just seems like he's drew another large target on MLSE.  :

which is why it probably isn't a shot at his bosses.

It probably wasn't really a shot at anyone, though it may have come across that way. When a sports franchise hires a new president, they almost always talk about changing the culture. It's really just a meaningless, empty statement.

But, if it's a shot at anyone, it's likely at Peddie and whoever was in charge in the interim.

Yeah we haven't heard one yet say "meh, I'm going to keep things the way they are and see what happens."

 

[Derk]

Nice to see our own Rob Del Mundo quoted in the Sun yesterday...

And requoted on Yahoo Sports.

The linked article should clear up the statement about the culture - Leiweke wants to focus on the future rather than the (distant) past.

 

[lamajama]

So no more (or far fewer) pre-game ceremonies honoring the team trainers from 1964?

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Sure, whatever, it's just money.

How many years are left on his contract though? Just the one? Ideally I think it would be smart to see how things go in this season, as it's the first full one with him as GM and he's finally put his stamp on the team. But if it's just one year left then I understand. It's common practice to not let a GM or coach go into a season with just a year left.

I think he has 2 years left on his current deal, but, as Corn points out, it was one that was negotiated for a different position than he currently holds - which would be why his contract is being renegotiated, rather than simply extended.

Did they not just Ujiri piles of high end money to be the GM of the Raps?  Like $2+ mil a year? My guess would be they would want to align pay structures to some degree. 

I would imagine Nonis was already making regular GM money in his position under Burke. Kind of like how Eakins was probably very close to a NHL head coaches salary with the Marlies. But either way, it would strike me as rather odd that his salary wouldn't have been renegotiated when he took on the GM position.

 

[Bullfrog]

It probably wasn't really a shot at anyone, though it may have come across that way. When a sports franchise hires a new president, they almost always talk about changing the culture. It's really just a meaningless, empty statement.

But, if it's a shot at anyone, it's likely at Peddie and whoever was in charge in the interim.

Though it's almost a cliche, I wouldn't say it's meaningless. Most new presidents/politicians genuinely want to change the perceived culture of an organization.

 

[hockeyfan1]

Nice to see our own Rob Del Mundo quoted in the Sun yesterday...

And requoted on Yahoo Sports.

The linked article should clear up the statement about the culture - Leiweke wants to focus on the future rather than the (distant) past.

I agree with Rob's comments one hundred percent, especially in reference to the part where Lieweke seems to wants to do away with the past. 

As the saying goes, "How can you know where it's at, if you don't know where it's been?".  Disregarding the past achievements (Stanley Cup victories) would be like as though they never happened.

And, by the way, that poster of Frank Mahovlich holding the Cup is far more inspirational than a poster of Tyler Bozak winning a face-off!

 

[Hampreacher]

I think he was talking about the negative and impatient attitude of fans, media, and management. We sign one of top free agents available and we tear him down before he even steps on the ice. I think he was looking at the collapse in game seven. Instead of letting it drag us down to make rash decisions to use it as a motivation to improve.

 

[OldTimeHockey]

I think he was talking about the negative and impatient attitude of fans, media, and management. We sign one of top free agents available and we tear him down before he even steps on the ice. I think he was looking at the collapse in game seven. Instead of letting it drag us down to make rash decisions to use it as a motivation to improve.

Nobody tore down Clarkson. People are tearing down the contract and term.

 

[jdh1]

I think he was talking about the negative and impatient attitude of fans, media, and management. We sign one of top free agents available and we tear him down before he even steps on the ice. I think he was looking at the collapse in game seven. Instead of letting it drag us down to make rash decisions to use it as a motivation to improve.

Nobody tore down Clarkson. People are tearing down the contract and term.

I do think that Clarkson's contract was over examined,even before he's played a game.And yes it does reflect on him in a negative way.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

Random observation that's probably been mentioned - Leafs signed Troy Bodie and he's marrying Tim Leiweke's daughter in August.  Now it makes sense.

 

[OldTimeHockey]

I think he was talking about the negative and impatient attitude of fans, media, and management. We sign one of top free agents available and we tear him down before he even steps on the ice. I think he was looking at the collapse in game seven. Instead of letting it drag us down to make rash decisions to use it as a motivation to improve.

Nobody tore down Clarkson. People are tearing down the contract and term.

I do think that Clarkson's contract was over examined,even before he's played a game.And yes it does reflect on him in a negative way.

I don't think so. Every big signing is going to be over examined, but it doesn't reflect poorly on the player.

He was overpaid/overcommitted to due to the lack of UFA's available. It doesn't mean he's not a good player, just that he was overvalued due to a lack of competition.

 

[Zee]

I think he was talking about the negative and impatient attitude of fans, media, and management. We sign one of top free agents available and we tear him down before he even steps on the ice. I think he was looking at the collapse in game seven. Instead of letting it drag us down to make rash decisions to use it as a motivation to improve.

Nobody tore down Clarkson. People are tearing down the contract and term.

I do think that Clarkson's contract was over examined,even before he's played a game.And yes it does reflect on him in a negative way.

I don't think so. Every big signing is going to be over examined, but it doesn't reflect poorly on the player.

He was overpaid/overcommitted to due to the lack of UFA's available. It doesn't mean he's not a good player, just that he was overvalued due to a lack of competition.

I've seen this go both ways.  If the Leafs HADN'T of signed Clarkson the cry from many would be "Leafs not doing everything they can to improve the team, cheap ownership doesn't want to hand out long term contracts to get a premier free agent"  Damned if you do, damned if you don't.